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・現場で働くのが専門学校生より遅くなる ざっと挙げるとこんな感じです。他にもまだまだあるかもしれません。 とりあえず、ここに挙げられたメリット・デメリットをもとに、自分にとって何が大切でそのためにはどちらが適切なのか、考えていきましょう! まず、考えてほしいのは、「本当に看護師でいいのか?」ということです。 医療現場では様々な仕事がありますが、本当に看護師で良いですか? 上に挙げたように、専門学校に入るとほかのキャリアが選択しにくくなってしまいます。 ここで「イエス」と言えなければ、大学進学という道を選択したほうが良いかもしれません。 次に考えてほしいのは、「早く現場で働いて活躍することと将来良い待遇を受けることどちらを優先したいか?」ということです。 詳しいデータを挙げると、働く先の病院によっても異なりますが、 専門学校卒の看護師は大学卒の看護師より月収が7000円~2万円安く、 年収にして8~24万円の差が出るそうです。 病院によってはかなり差が出そうですね。。。 また、看護師の管理職に就くひとは大学卒の人の方が多いそうですから、看護師として給料をたくさんもらって、管理職としてみんなを引っ張って…というようなキャリアを歩みたいなら大学をお勧めします。 ただし、専門学校生でも実力が評価されて高い給料をもらう、管理職に就く、ということも十分あり得ます。あくまで一般論であることに注意してください。 最後に、「教養科目を学びたいか?」ということです。 すぴさんの場合、大学に魅力がないということでしたから、あまり教養科目を学びたいとは考えていないのではないかと思います。 教養科目を学ぶメリットとしては、問題解決能力や論理的思考力が身につく、ということが挙げられます。 あまりピンと来ないかもしれませんが、実際に働いたとき、または日常生活において様々な状況に対応できる力が身につく、というようなことです。 もし教養科目を学ぶことに意欲があれば、大学を選択したほうがよいでしょう。 いかがでしたでしょうか? これ以外にも、すぴさんの場合には地元を離れることの抵抗感を考えたほうが良いでしょう。 周りの人は大学を勧めている、とのことでしたので、学費の面は割愛しました。 100%自分に当てはまる選択肢というのはなかなかないですから、自分は特に何を大切にしたいのか、天秤にかけてじっくり考えてみてください。 しっかりとした理由があれば先生なども理解してくださると思います! 後悔のない選択ができることを祈っています。 1c:Tbd1,私も看護師志望で、専門学校を考えたことがありますが、大学を選択しました。 今専門学校に魅力を感じているということならば、まずは具体的にどこに魅力を感じているのかを掘り下げて考えてみることが必要だと思います! 地元を離れるのが嫌だから魅力を感じているのか、その学校の雰囲気やカリキュラムに魅力を感じているのか、受験教科が減るから魅力を感じているのか でもだいぶ違ってくると思います!·····☆ 私が大学を選んだ理由は、 ・色んな学部の人と知り合えること。 →色んな考え方や知らなかったことを教えて貰えるかもしれないし、将来のために人脈を作っておくという意味でも大事。大学には人脈を作りに行くって考える人もいるみたいですw ・看護以外の勉強もできること。 大学では、看護以外の授業を受けることができます。 その受ける授業も、たくさんの分野のたくさんのテーマの中から自分で選ぶことができます!! 自分が興味ある分野の話がその分野の教授から聞けるのでめっちゃ面白いし、他ではできないことだなっておもいます! ・あとはやっぱり給料の話。。。 専門学校のいいところは、就職がしやすいことや短期間で卒業できるところもあるので大卒より早く就職できることです。 ただ、今看護師不足してますし、大卒でも看護なら就職しやすい(はず)なので微妙なところです💦 ですが、初任給やその後の給料はやっぱり大卒のほうが高いです。 どのくらいの規模の病院に就職するかにもよって違うと思いますが、専門学校卒と大卒では大きくて約2万円の差があると書いてあるデータもあるくらいです。 看護の大学も全国にありますし、自分が気に入りそうなところを探してみるのもいいかもです! 災害看護をやりたいのか、救急看護がしたいのか、それとも他の○○看護をしたいのか でも学校選びは違ってくると思います。 上記の理由より私は大学推しですが、☆マークの所に書いたように、まずは何故魅力を感じたのか、なぜ魅力を感じないのかを書き出してみることが色々考えるよりも先かなとおもいます! どこに行ったとしても楽しもうっていう気持ちを持つことが出来れば楽しめますし、逆にその気持ちになろうとしなければどこに行ってもたのしめないとおもいます。 じっくり悩んで、自分が本当に行きたいところに進学できるよう応援しています。 先生や身近な人の話もちょっと聞きつつ、ゴリ押しされても自分が行きたいところを選択してくださいね!! 1e:T10ef,初めまして、地方公立出身の者です。 私の現役時代の志望校決めの話でよければ参考にしてください。 私は高校2年生の冬頃に一番理系で間違いのない職業は医師だろうと思い医学部を志しました。方向性を定めるのが遅かったため、十分に情報収集は出来ておらず、とりあえず出来るだけレベルの高いところに行きたいと思い大阪大学を志望しました。 志望校を決めて早めに対策に取り掛かりたいとの事ですが、その気持ちよくわかります。私もちょうど高2の冬頃、まだ医師を目指すと心に決めていなかった時期にものすごく焦っていました。しかしいざ蓋を開けてみれば実際そこまで志望大学特攻をする必要はなかったのかなと思います。どの勉強プラットフォームを使っているかにも依ってしまうのですが、志望大学向けの専用の勉強をするのはもう少し後でもいいかもしれません。医学科の場合は共通テスト後に志望校が変わることがあり得るので今はどの大学になってもいいようによりジェネラルな力を養った方が後々大きな利点を残してくれると思います。 もちろん方向性は定めておいた方がいいのは確かですから、自分が行きたいと思えるところを志望校に設定すると受験勉強に精が出ると思います。 性格の箇所、拝見させていただきました。 努力できるならどんな状態でもまじでどこでもいけますよ。一年という途方もない時間を耐え切る精神力があれば蓄えが0だとしても登り詰めることは可能です。あなたは受験にピッタリな性格をしていらっしゃる。 最後におまけ的な内容になってしまいますが自分が知ってる医学部をいくつかあげようと思います。あくまで参考程度にとどめていただいてもし気になったのがあれば実際に自分で確かめてみてくださいね!! 立地の良さ 都市圏の国公立は大体いいです。しかし難易度も上がります。ちなみに大阪大学の立地はクソ悪いので立地の良さを求めるなら別のところ行った方がいいですwその代わりに大阪公立、神戸 京都とかは割と立地いい方だと思います。 問題の難易度に関してなんですけど、地方に行けば行くほど特殊な問題が増え、都市部ほどオーソドックスな難しい問題が出てくるように思えます。これなぜかというと、地方は医学部に専用の問題を作りがちなんですね。都市圏は理系学部で統一入試が行われてるところが多いですけど地方でそれやると他の学部の人が点数取れなくなっちゃって入試の意味が無くなっちゃうんですよね。だから問題の気持ち悪さは地方や単科大の方が高いと思います。 ただ入学の難易度はまたちょっと話が変わってきて、ぶっちゃけ地方ならどこでも入りやすいです。(都市部と比べると相対的に)地方の大学は、山梨大学後期とかの特殊なパターンを除きやっぱり集まってくる層のレベルはちょっと優しめになります。 前述した気持ち悪い問題が出たとしてもちょっとミスするぐらいだったら全然受かっちゃうこともしばしば……。もちろん無対策とか爆死とかしたらちゃんと落ちますけど旧帝行くぞ!!って意気込んで勉強してた人が地方医学部入試受けてみると物足りなさを覚えたりすることもあるそうです。 上述もしましたが、とりあえず自分が行きたいと思うところを第一志望にして勉強していくのがベストだと思います。色々調べてくると研究とか、医局の強さとか、研修先の充実さとかたくさんの情報が出てくるとは思いますが6年間地獄の勉強ラッシュに耐えられるような大学をお選びになってください。 気乗りしないところ選んじゃうと受かってからが辛いと思うので。2:["$","main",null,{"className":"px-4 pt-4 pb-4","children":["$","div",null,{"className":"max-w-3xl mx-auto 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