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理由としては、今は昔よりもインターネットが発達していて、とても良質な授業動画がネット上にたくさん転がっています。分かりやすく解説されたサイトもたくさんあります。それらを上手く活用しながら、勉強すれば東京大学の理系も十分受かる可能性があります。しかも、今高1なのであれば、まだあと3年程時間が残されています。私の周りの人では高2まで部活をフルでこなして、高3から本格的に受験勉強を始めて、高1から受験勉強に時間を捧げてきた自分を一瞬で抜き去っていった猛者もいます。その人は今東大で楽しいキャンパスライフを送っています。慶医にも十分な学習環境が整っていないような田舎から来てる人がいたりします。なので、高校の環境などで東大を諦めるのは早すぎるというか勿体ないです。たとえ理系科目が苦手でも、英語を得意にすることが出来れば、余裕で受かります。東大はバランス型がよく受かると言われています。つまり全科目でそこそこの点数を取れば受かるんです。そして、英語と理科は努力量の勝負です。(数学はややセンス的なものを要することがある)理系に国公立コースがなくても努力すれば、全然受かります。 ただ、現実的な話として1つ言っておきたいのは、今の東大理系はどこも入るのがかなり難しいです。最近どんどん倍率が上がって、より難しくなっています。一方、東大文系は正直やや穴場と思っています。(共テの足切り点を見てもらえばわかると思います)もちろん難しいですが、理系よりは、、、という感じです。なので、日本史が得意なら確かに文系を選ぶという選択肢もアリかなと思います。東大には進振り(進学振り分け) という神的な制度があるので、そこで理転して工学部という手も無くはないです。(あまりそういう人は聞かないけど) つらつらと長文を書いてきましたけど、正直どっちを選んでもいい選択だと思います。ただ、自分が将来やりたい方面がある程度定まっているのであれば、やはりその方向に進んだ方が、大学に入ってから辛くないと思います。少し違う例になるかもしれませんが、1回医学部を諦めて東大理1に入って、勉強しているうちにやっぱり違うなと思って理3に入りなおした方もいます。高1という時期は理想をみていい時期なので、1回理系で挑戦してみて厳しいなと思ったら文系に変えればいいし、いけるなと思ったらそのまま突き進めばいいと思います。 自分の1番行きたい大学に行けるように勉強頑張って下さい!応援しています。1d:Tcb0,おー!僕も茨城出身です!親近感湧きますね! 早速ですが、僕の偏見を踏まえながら行きます。 法学部なので、理系の情報はすごく薄いです。 文系 社会科が一教科で済む上、難易度が軽い ・法学部は入るのが多分一番簡単。ただ国家公務員になるなら東大の天下だし、テストが重くて3割の人が留年を経験する(と、事あるごとに脅される)。総じて勉強量が多い。得られるものは多いが、突き抜けた分野がないのかなぁ。 ・経済学部 今年は法と大差なかったが、例年法より最低点が数%上の難関。なぜこうなるかと言えば、入ってからがクッソ楽。時間も浮くので就活もしやすい(らしい)。 ・文と、総合人間 教育の文系はそもそも人数が少なく、倍率が上がる(結果法より難しくなりがち)。総人は数学の比重が重く、文は数学が軽いらしい。なお総人は入ってから専攻の自由度が高いので、そこで将来を考えるのもいいかもね。 理系 多分入るのは理系の方が一段難しい。 数3+理科2科目。数学では例年文理共通問題があるが、理系なら落としちゃいけないレベルらしい。文系は「この問題理系にも出てたのか。解けないはずだな」くらいの感覚かな。 今年工学部の情報系の学科がインフレした。IT系の人材が重宝される時代を反映してだと思われるけど、偏差値が東大理一を超えたとかなんとか。 そのほかは例年通りだった。 何も目標がなくてただ京大に入りたいだけなら(京大のネームバリューはでかいし、悪い事じゃない)、多分次のことを考慮すべき。。 ・入試難易度(単純に入りやすさなら多分法) ・そこに入る事で将来できなくなる仕事 (当然文系なら技術職は無理。理系の方が潰しは効 く) ・理系の方が院に行く流れが多い。みんな当然のよう に院に行く。6年通える経済力はあるか?逆に経済や総人はほぼ就職する。 ぐらいのことを踏まえて、ピンときた方を選ぶ。 僕は司法試験を受けるため法に来たけど、直前まで経済も考えていたし、天文学者になれる学部を本気で探した時期もあった。 どこかに絞るやり方もあるけど、いざとなれば転学部だって可能(条件厳しいけど)だから、将来を今絞らないのも手。 難易度で入りやすそうな法に入るか、ちょっと難関ではあるけど自由度の高い総人や経済にするか、AIの時代に備えた技能を身につけるべく工に行くか、食料問題とかはいつでもついて回るから農に行くか(農の先輩で、院行ったあと事務職にに就職したいって人も知ってます) 色々やり方はあります。答えになってないと思うかもしれないけど、僕に答えは出せないです。君の進路だからね。ピンと来たところに行く。考えすぎないことです。 1e:Td8c,現在就職活動中、加えて先輩などからよくキャリアについて聞いてきたことを踏まえて回答させていただきます。まず、結論質問者様の求めるものによるということです。今の内容ですと安定して稼げるということがありますが、例えば稼げるとはいくらからなのか、何歳でなのか、安定するとはどういうことなのか、などは主観的なものですので一応複数の回答を考えてみましたので、総合的に判断いただき、追加で質問が発生した場合はコメントを残していただけると幸いです。 1 銀行員になるには文系が有利なのか。答えはノーです。近年金融業界は証券、銀行、カード、保険含めて理系採用に力を入れています。なぜならどの業界に行くにせよ学生の持つ知識は社会人から見たら大差がないからです。一方で理系の方は数字に強いです。金融系は数字を扱う職種なので理系は強いです。ですので文理の差はあまりなくむしろ理系の方が強いという認識が正解です。 2 エンジニアについてです。エンジニアと一口に言っても色々なものがあります。ですがシステムエンジニアの場合、そこまで給料が高い印象はありません(あくまで一般平均よりは高いですが、難関大学の就職先と比較するとということです)一方で外資系の会社や金融系の会社には社内で投資商品の自動売買のシステムを構築したりする部署があり、倍率も高いですがそう言った業種の年収は数千万になります。理系でエンジニアとは少し違いますが似た業種で給料が高い職種としてはITコンサルがあります。これは正確には自分でプログラムを書くのではなく、巨大企業のシステム開発の工程をマネジメントする仕事です。体感で文理が3:7の比率ですが平均年収は大手であれば30で750程度、外資なら900〜1000万に到達します。 最後に、わたしがお伝えしたいこととして就活においては文理はそこまで関係がないということです。もちろん研究職や一部のハイレベルなエンジニア職は専門の学部の大学院を出てないとなれないケースもありますが、基本的には経済学部だから金融が強いとかそういったことはないです。むしろ、大学のレベルが就活においては大きなハードルになります。良い大学を出ているから内定をするという話は全くないですが、この大学以上じゃないと他の活動や資格がいかに優れていても強制的に落とされるというケースはよくあります。ですので、特段得意科目に偏りがないのであれば上位大学を狙いやすい文系に行くのが吉かと思われます。かくゆうわたしも慶応ですが、理系を選んでいたら慶応にはこれてなかったと思います。そして慶応なら学歴フィルターにかかることはない(通るけどボトムの企業はありますが...)のでそこは良かったと思っています。 将来を考えて文理を決めるなど質問者様はそもそも姿勢が素晴らしいので、この調子で頑張ってください。1f:Td72,こんにちは! kirbyさんの志望大学・志望学部とは異なりますが、現在、2週間後の大学院入試に向けて勉強を行っている身として回答させていただきます。 将来を見据えての大学選び素晴らしいですね。私は当時、自分の興味の向くまま進路を決め、あまり将来のことまで考えていなかったので、kirbyさんの姿勢、尊敬します。 まず、大学院の必要性について、理系であれば特に、研究職や専門性の高い仕事に就きたいと考えているのであれば、大学院は必須かと思います。総合職か専門職かによって異なるかもしれませんが、大学院に進学して損はしないでしょう。 さて、学部と大学院で所属を変更することについて、kirbyさんがおっしゃるように就活で有利になる可能性があることは一つ大きなメリットです。また、学部時代にブラック研究室に入ってしまった等あれば、環境が変わること自体も大きなメリットになるでしょう。一方で、研究テーマが変わってしまう可能性が高いのはデメリットとなります。大学院はあくまで研究をする場、研究テーマが変わるということは自分が今まで積み重ねた知識が全て生かせるわけではない可能性が高まります。就活、研究を進めながら、新たに研究に関する知識を身につけなければいけないということは少なからず負荷になります。また、大学院入試は先輩などから過去問をもらって受験することが多いです。他大の大学院を受験するということは、過去問をもらうことは困難になります。 などなど、思いつくメリット・デメリットを挙げてみましたが、あくまで私自身の考え方としては、kirbyさんの状況において他大の大学院受験はあまりお勧めはできません。自分自身の受験の経験から、夏休み明けぐっと学力が伸びること、また東大の進振りとは若干異なるかと思いますが、北大の総合入試制度で、1年間の自分の努力でそこそこ難易度の高い学部・学科に進級したこと、を考え、今kirbyさんが抱えているような不安はそれほど大きな事象ではないように感じます。また、大学院はあくまで研究を行う場、就活のためのステータスを得るための場ではないことも頭に置いておきましょう。 それでも不安があるようであれば、kirbyさんが志望しているようなIT系の大企業の採用実績等を確認してみましょう。企業の採用情報のページなどに記載されていることがあります。東大と京大で採用人数であったり東大生・京大生を採用している企業数に差がないのであれば、学部と大学院で所属を変えるkことによってkirbyさんが求めるメリットは得られないと考えます。 以上、長文かつkirbyさんの意見を否定してしまうような回答をしてしまったかもしれませんが、一読いただけると幸いです。まだ、時間は残されています。色々な情報を見聞きし、自分の納得のいく決断ができることを願っています。2:["$","main",null,{"className":"px-4 pt-4 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