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結論、質問者さん本人が全てに納得し満足する状態になるまでは、両親はアドバイスや小言を言うかもしれません。逆に、質問者さんが納得出来るようなかたちに落ち着けば、恐らく両親は何も言ってこないでしょう。そして、いかなる状況でも両親には子供を様々な面から支える「義務」と、結局はサポートしたいという「愛情」が少なからずあるように思われます。 質問者さんの思考は「迷惑をかけたことや金銭的な援助をしてくれた両親に対する恩返し」の思考がかなり先走っています。自己中心的な思考がありません。 自分のことは、まずは自分主体で考えるべきでしょう? あなたが現状に満足していないから両親と喧嘩してしまうのであり、現状に満足しているのであれば、両親は安心(無関心の場合もありますが)して何も言わないことでしょう。 私の高校の友人の話にはなりますが、3年間塾に通った上で第一志望に落ちてしまったけれども、大学の単位を最低限とりながら公認会計士の試験に合格したという事例があります。それも、同じ状況の人が複数人います。 彼等も同じように、大学合格後は両親と口論したそうです。 しかし、自分の目標を新たに見つけ、その圧倒的な努力の過程を両親に見せることで新たに信頼と応援の気持ちを獲得し、結果としては全員が納得する形に落ち着いています。 両親の学歴を気にする気持ちも分かります。 実際、現役生だった私も、「2人は今の自分の状況なんて全く理解できないだろう」とつっぱなしてしまっていました。 しかし、少なくとも25~35年くらいは自分よりも長く生きている筈です。 その中で、学歴が優れている人、優れていても人間性が劣る人、学歴の問題を跳ね返した人、そもそも学歴とは全く関係が無い生き方をしている人・・・様々な状況の人に会い、様々な人生を見てきたはずです。それを踏まえた上で、あなたに可能な限りの選択肢を共有しているのであって、どれだけ学歴が離れていても、経験則から生み出された思考はあなたのそれよりも優れている場面が大半です。 まずは、今あなたが一番なりたい姿を考えてみましょう。 そして、現実と理想の間にギャップがあるのであれば再度努力することで両親を納得させていきましょう。どんな環境でも、あなたに最も反発し、あなたに最も寄り添ってくれる存在である両親とは、関係は切り離せられませんからね。 以上、参考になれば幸いです。 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