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まずはじめに看板学部に関してですが、おっしゃる通り、岡山大学は医学部が有名ですし、神戸大学は文系学部が有名です。(一般には六医大と呼ばれていた名残であったり、他の大学の吸収などが関係しています。旧帝も旧帝国大学ですから、言ってしまえば、ただの名残ですが笑)大学の偏差値だけを見るのではなく、自分が学びたい学部学科の強い大学に進学するというのは、一つの判断材料として良いと思います。    そのうえで旧帝に関してですが、旧帝大学はありがたいことに、研究に関して非常に優れているというのは事実だと思います。自分の通っている東北大学に関しても、朝から夜遅くまで開いていて、むちゃくちゃたくさんの自習スペースがある図書館があったり、新しくて、ものすごく広い研究室群があったりします。大学生になって自分の学びたいことを学んでく上ではかなり大きなメリットだと思います。旧帝にも多少差はありますし、旧帝か否かだけでは線引きができないのはもちろんのことですが、このようなメリットは確実にあると思います。ですから比較的偏差値が高く、設備もそろっている例えば旧帝一工神のような難関大だと受けられる恩恵も大きいので目指しがいがあると思います。  では、就職に関してはどうなのでしょうか。世間一般的には東大京大を除く旧帝大は就職面では早慶に劣っているとされている気がします。ただこれに関しては様々な面があり、長短所が混在しているので一概にはいえませんし、旧帝もかなりのアドバンテージがあります。  これはどこで就職するかによってもだいぶ変わります。関東で就職するなら早慶の評価はとても高いですが、仙台市で就職するなら東北大学のほうが評判は高いですし、博多で就職するなら九大のほうが印象がいいと思います。  僕の地元は北陸のどこかの県なのですが、田舎の方になると旧帝よりも地元県名大学のほうが賢いと言われたりします。有名な話で、一橋に受かったのに、何故琉球にいかなかったのかと怒られた人がいるなんて話もありますよね。  今日の日本では、旧帝理系というブランドというよりは、国公立理系大出身という時点で、(早慶など有名私立は置いておくとして)相当重宝されるそうです。(もちろんその中で旧帝のほうが評価は高いのは事実ですが)  むしろ就職に必要なのは(就職先にもよりますが) TOEICの点数や資格、どこの学部卒か、あとは当然人柄等なので(だと思うので)そこまで心配するはなく、自分の一番行きたいところを目指すのでOKだと思います。  現状どこを志望したらいいかわからないという状態でしたら、偏差値の高い大学を目指しておくとベターです。オープンキャンパスや資料取り寄せなどで、いろいろ雰囲気を見て自分に合ったところを探してみてください。 こんな感じの回答になりますが、よろしいでしょうか。 最後に一つ逃げのようなアドバイスを言っておくと、一旦大学に入った後、あまりピンとこなかったら、三年次編入で他の大学に行くこともできますし、 (現在は大阪大、東北大、名古屋大、神戸大、筑波大などいろいろあります。) 院から他の大学に行くこともできますので、ご参考までに1b:Td72,こんにちは! kirbyさんの志望大学・志望学部とは異なりますが、現在、2週間後の大学院入試に向けて勉強を行っている身として回答させていただきます。 将来を見据えての大学選び素晴らしいですね。私は当時、自分の興味の向くまま進路を決め、あまり将来のことまで考えていなかったので、kirbyさんの姿勢、尊敬します。 まず、大学院の必要性について、理系であれば特に、研究職や専門性の高い仕事に就きたいと考えているのであれば、大学院は必須かと思います。総合職か専門職かによって異なるかもしれませんが、大学院に進学して損はしないでしょう。 さて、学部と大学院で所属を変更することについて、kirbyさんがおっしゃるように就活で有利になる可能性があることは一つ大きなメリットです。また、学部時代にブラック研究室に入ってしまった等あれば、環境が変わること自体も大きなメリットになるでしょう。一方で、研究テーマが変わってしまう可能性が高いのはデメリットとなります。大学院はあくまで研究をする場、研究テーマが変わるということは自分が今まで積み重ねた知識が全て生かせるわけではない可能性が高まります。就活、研究を進めながら、新たに研究に関する知識を身につけなければいけないということは少なからず負荷になります。また、大学院入試は先輩などから過去問をもらって受験することが多いです。他大の大学院を受験するということは、過去問をもらうことは困難になります。 などなど、思いつくメリット・デメリットを挙げてみましたが、あくまで私自身の考え方としては、kirbyさんの状況において他大の大学院受験はあまりお勧めはできません。自分自身の受験の経験から、夏休み明けぐっと学力が伸びること、また東大の進振りとは若干異なるかと思いますが、北大の総合入試制度で、1年間の自分の努力でそこそこ難易度の高い学部・学科に進級したこと、を考え、今kirbyさんが抱えているような不安はそれほど大きな事象ではないように感じます。また、大学院はあくまで研究を行う場、就活のためのステータスを得るための場ではないことも頭に置いておきましょう。 それでも不安があるようであれば、kirbyさんが志望しているようなIT系の大企業の採用実績等を確認してみましょう。企業の採用情報のページなどに記載されていることがあります。東大と京大で採用人数であったり東大生・京大生を採用している企業数に差がないのであれば、学部と大学院で所属を変えるkことによってkirbyさんが求めるメリットは得られないと考えます。 以上、長文かつkirbyさんの意見を否定してしまうような回答をしてしまったかもしれませんが、一読いただけると幸いです。まだ、時間は残されています。色々な情報を見聞きし、自分の納得のいく決断ができることを願っています。1c:Tea2,質問者様の志望学科は京大だと「地球工学科」「建築学科」が該当しますね。 地球工学科では「資源工学」「環境工学」「土木工学」にコースが分かれており、私は土木工学を専攻しています。 地球工学科にも建築学科にもすごい先生はたくさんおられるので、先生とたくさん会話すれば刺激的な環境であることは間違いないです。 旧帝大のブランドは大きいですが、やはり東大京大ブランドは別格ですよ。 良くも悪くも大きくその人のイメージを左右します。 ------------ 中弛みはあるあるですね。 僕もそうでした。 高3に入って、好きなゲームを封印しましたが、それでも高3の9月に入るまでは結構弛んでましたし、エンジンかけるのがもう少し早ければ現役合格出来ていただろうなと今でも思っています。 ------------ 京大には、まさに天才!という人がいますが、割と普通の人も多いですよ。 京大のハードルを自分で上げなくても大丈夫です。 試験で点数さえ取れたら、凡人だろうと天才だろうと誰でも受かりますから。 ------------ 理系の場合、国語の点数はあまり合否を左右しません。 質問者様の志望学科だと センター200 (国語50、英語50、社会100) 二次試験800 (数学250、理科250、英語200、国語100) の配点です。 国語100点中60点取れる人の方が少ないですし、僕が合格したときの点数も30〜40点くらいでした。 もちろん国語対策はしてきてはいますが、圧倒的に数学理科英語が重要です。 記述対策は何とかなります。 ------------ 実践型模試は、ひとまず京大のものを受けましょう。 別に実践型模試を受けていなくても受験対策は出来ますし、京大レベルを知っておくのが重要だと思います。 ------------ 僕が京大を選んだ基準は 「おもしろい人がいっぱいいるから」 「京大生というブランドが欲しいから」 です。 学問、研究の分野は2の次でした。 しかし、入ってから感じたことは、特定の学問分野で世界的権威の先生がおられるという魅力的環境です。 そんな先生と簡単に会話が出来るというのは、京大生に与えられた特権といっていいでしょう。 ただ、実際は入ってからでないと実感がわかないと思うので、単純に「入ったら面白い人と面白いこと出来そう!」という感覚でいいと思います。 他に阪大と神戸大にも行ったことはありましたが、僕の感覚では京大に比べて魅力的に映りませんでした。 これは直感です。客観的に理由を説明しろと言われても難しいです。 ------------ 私は一浪で合格しているのでわかるのですが、現時点で理科の偏差値50を下回っていると、成長ペースをつかまないと現役合格はかなり厳しいと思います。 夏休みを通じて、理科の基礎を固めていくことが大切になりますが、 *力学 *気体・溶液 *化学平衡 を復習しておくと、夏の実践型模試で自分の勉強ペースが適切かどうか判断がつきやすいと思います。 物理の勉強に関しては、僕の過去の質問回答に参考になるものがあると思いますので是非ご覧ください。2:["$","main",null,{"className":"px-4 pt-4 pb-4","children":["$","div",null,{"className":"max-w-3xl 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